Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin

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bluechinagroup said:
I think deep down Martin knows what he did, but he's hoping this creates enough "reasonable doubt" that'll allow him to be found NOT GUILTY in a criminal trial. Never mind the fact that the feds love pushing plea bargains really hard or the fact that this defense still makes no logical sense, even if he really was hacked.
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I predicted the judgment and also that it would go in DJ-status. No exhibits are OTR in court, as there is no trial, so the guy thinks that not providing the proof of his guilt in court is equivalent to being declared innocent.

The fact that he is on here declaring his innocence is surreal. You can't police stupidity. Martin Grunin is proof of that. You would think he parents would pull the plug.
 
ROIShareTeam said:
Poopie, do you mind if I ask you this question? Looks like you hold a lot of contempt for me. There used to be a time when bb_wolfe and Sohan hated my guts, but you've even 1 upped them at this point. You're at least two levels deeper now.

So let me ask you this, in the past 4 months I've gone through quite a few girls. Which one of them was your daughter?
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Fuck off pussy, nobody one-ups me.

Imagine it's 2017 right now.

You'll have the guy in the cell next to you saying "in the past 4 months, I've gone through quite a few girls, which one was the kid who scammed Facebook again?"
 
poopie said:
I predicted the judgment and also that it would go in DJ-status. No exhibits are OTR in court, as there is no trial, so the guy thinks that not providing the proof of his guilt in court is equivalent to being declared innocent.

The fact that he is on here declaring his innocence is surreal. You can't police stupidity. Martin Grunin is proof of that. You would think he parents would pull the plug.
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I'll prove my goddamn innocence in a criminal trial. I'm not going to cause collateral damage in a civil case.
 
Alright so I got the screenshot. Since Martin requested that I not post it, I won't. I will however transcribe and describe it, since Martin didn't say that I couldn't do that.

It's a conversation on iMessage captured by camera rather than by the iphone screen capture function. The first message was sent on October 8th at 3:03 AM. The year is unknown.

The first message sent by Martin says:

David, you have a severe issue on your end. Someone has access to your Skype. [After that a block of text is blacked out]
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David responds with:

why do you say that?
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Martin responds with:

Last week I get a call from an old buddy informing me that somebody he knows has had access to my Skype and email for the past six months. Somehow this guy got access to a [After that a block of text is blacked out]
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so even if an email got hacked.. what does that prove? This Tunisian hacker hacked you, then somehow created fake sites, pointed them to your server, fooled facebook with fake docs, stole money.. but the R8 was bought by you.. right. makes perfect sense..

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bluechinagroup said:
Alright so I got the screenshot. Since Martin requested that I not post it, I won't. I will however transcribe and describe it, since Martin didn't say that I couldn't do that.

It's a conversation on iMessage capture by camera rather than by the iphone screen capture function. The first message was sent on October 8th at 3:03 AM. The year is unknown.

The first message sent by Martin says:

David, you have a severe issue on your end. Someone has access to your Skype. [After that a block of text is blacked out]
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Case closed! Exonerated with deep apologies from the court.
 
bluechinagroup said:
Does anyone remember what Martin is referring to? Kopia claims he remembers this, but then he promptly deleted his post.
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I remember it... but it's totally irrelevant.

If it walks like a duck...

I mean come the fuck on... if you are innocent and "not responsible" for the $300K+ that FB was suing for... I'm sure I can speak for 100% of the members of this forum is that we would be screaming at the mountain tops getting the best help possible and be dumping all of this evidence on FB lawyers and the courts desk.

We wouldn't be hiring a fucking whack job... be calling Federal judges "child molesting Fagin's"... and turn the whole thing into a fucking sideshow game.

Yeah. Great fucking idea...Take a $410K hit, become a target of a federal criminal investigation, & publicly smear your name & reputation personally and professionally almost repairable beyond relief and sit back and wait only til yer indicted to "bring your evidence to light".

GTFO
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The only possibility of this happening someone is paying you off for more than FB sued you not to rat & you are their puppet bitch. Being the only way you would rat on them if yer ass faced federal prision time.

I got 2 questions for you.

Was Ryan Eagle involved with the accounts that were implicated with fraud by FB in anyway?

What WF member referred you to BRC?
 
ROIShareTeam said:
I can't just cherry pick conversations from Skype. If I was going to refer to it as my evidence, I would need to give up access to all my Skype conversations. Like I said, I'm not a complete goody two shoe.
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Which simply implies that other files & documents you would have to produce would implicate you in other crimes that would cost you more than the damages you have agreed to pay in this single case - is that what you're saying?

That's bad if so...
 
microphone head said:
Which simply implies that other files & documents you would have to produce would implicate you in other crimes that would cost you more than the damages you have agreed to pay in this single case - is that what you're saying?

That's bad if so...
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Or even worse if he's deliberately leaving that evidence on his computer, assuming he's going to get raided, for the cops to find. That's what it sounded like from a post of his a page or two back (the long one).

He doesn't want to name people for a reason, but is leaving evidence on his computer according to him for the criminal trial. Something's up.

Here's what he said in this post

But this isn't evidence that I can just submit to the court for it to be publicly recorded. But I know that if law enforcement every snoops in and seizes my computers, they will gain access to this evidence.
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tsk, tsk.
 
microphone head said:
Which simply implies that other files & documents you would have to produce would implicate you in other crimes that would cost you more than the damages you have agreed to pay in this single case - is that what you're saying?

That's bad if so...
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Additionally the fact that he defaulted on this case doesn't prevent his Skype records from getting subpoenaed in a federal case.

What Martin is saying isn't making any logical sense. If he produces the documents he can declare his innocence in this trial. If he doesn't produce these documents, he defaults on this trial, and he still might have to produce them at a later time anyways.

On top of that I'm not sure why you would need to produce Skype messages to prove you are hacked. Wouldn't server logs, support ticket requests to your hosting company, and the like all have sufficed? Or are you saying that you regularly bragged to your hosting company server admins about your other illegal activities as well?

Lastly, Alsup didn't even require you to produce any physical proof for his "last chance." All he required was a statement under oath, which you declined to provide.
 
The ink is not even dry on the judges final order and you are already making bad decisions.



Ready for the most valuable advice you will ever receive in your life.

Shut the fuck up.

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All you need is 1 Assistant U.S. Attorney to get a hair across his ass and decide to pursue your case. This is ANY U.S. Attorney in ANY state. Fight whatever urges you have to self destruct and keep quiet.

I can think of 4 jurisdictions that could indict you just for what was made public. You may hit the lottery and be indicted in multiple circuits/jurisdictions.
 
bashx said:
I can think of 4 jurisdictions that could indict you just for what was made public. You may hit the lottery and be indicted in multiple circuits/jurisdictions.
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Well it's federal court, so it's just one big jurisdiction. All of these Asst US attorneys work for the Department of Justice.

You're right though that this is pretty impossible for a Asst US attorney to resist. They need cases like this so that they can hopefully be promoted to U.S attorney.
 
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