NATIONAL RIFLE ASSC BITCHES..

Since this is a NRA thread, here's some people calling for the murder of the NRA president.

The ironic thing is that this kid's mother obtained her guns legally.

So unless they are saying that citizens of Connecticut shouldn't own guns period, I'm not sure what the NRA has to do with this.

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From what I've read, Connecticut already has an assault weapons ban law on the books. You don't hear that on the main stream media news.
 
I think they're looking at this ass-backwards.

What's the other common factor in all these school shootings? Schools.

If he just banned schools, they'd be no more school shootings. And he'd save a fortune on the federal education budget.
 
The US is really militaristic yes and force feed US army propaganda everywhere it can with shit like support the troops and all the Hollywood movies co-authored by the military industrial complex. Killing and incarcerating people is a United States billion dollar industry.

Does any US pundit dare say that maybe it isn't so strange with all the gun violence when the miliary is pushing violence 24/7 and liberating people by putting a bullet between the eyes?

War is peace. Peace is war.
 
We can't tolerate this anymore...... In the coming weeks, I'll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens, from law enforcement, to mental health professionals, to parents and educators, in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this, because what choice do we have? We can't accept events like this as routine.
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VIDEO, TRANSCRIPT: President Obama's speech at Newtown, Conn prayer vigil

Buy what you need/want before they start banning shit.
 
From Above:

I've been reflecting on this the last few days, and if we're honest with ourselves, the answer's no. We're not doing enough. And we will have to change. Since I've been president, this is the fourth time we have come together to comfort a grieving community torn apart by mass shootings, fourth time we've hugged survivors, the fourth time we've consoled the families of victims.
And in between, there have been an endless series of deadly shootings across the country, almost daily reports of victims, many of them children, in small towns and in big cities all across America, victims whose -- much of the time their only fault was being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
We can't tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change.
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The problem isn't gun ownership, it's the irresponsible usage of those guns. The problem most have with the NRA is not that the NRA supports gun ownership & the 2nd amd rights, but they fight any sort rational gun restrictions that might help stop some of these things from happening.

It's not about 20 kids getting killed in a school as bad as that may be, it's about the fact that on average 87 people are killed everyday with a firearm. You sure as hell wont hear that out of the NRA..

Instead of the NRA supporting responsible gun ownership and helping to strengthen laws against gun usage in crime.. They instead try to cock block everything trying to always make it about freedom & protecting rights rather than making it about "RESPONSIBILITY".

The true crime is the fact that the mother of an unstable mentally ill child was legally allowed keep these guns where this kid had access to them, much less that she taught him how to use them. At the very least parents of children that own guns should have to secure those guns and certainly keep them out of the hands of a child that is known to be mentally unstable.

Of course once again you won't hear the NRA supporting that, because that would be anti American. I mean forcing people to be responsible gun owners and all, that's like against our freedoms. I have to have a drivers licence to use a car and that car has to be registered, but any moron nut job can buy a gun.
 
Drake said:
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Be more worried about the Department of Homeland Security or TSA patrolling your schools than gun rights being taken away.

They're not going to use this to take gun rights away. If anything, they'll use it to create more intrusion & surveillance, and less privacy in your lives.
 
crockett said:
At the very least parents of children that own guns should have to secure those guns and certainly keep them out of the hands of a child that is known to be mentally unstable.
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Being negligent and putting a child at a certain level of risk is already illegal due to child endangerment laws and such.

any moron nut job can buy a gun.
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If guns were totally banned, any moron nut job could still steal or buy one on the black market. Legally speaking though, not anyone can buy a gun. Past gun control acts forbid sales to those who have been involuntarily committed to mental institutions and other groups, for example.


PS. Is this you below?

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Moxie said:
If guns were totally banned, any moron nut job could still steal or buy one on the black market.
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If guns were totally banned, who could a moron steal/buy a gun from? In Europe the only people who manage to get guns are very well funded and organized gangs like the mafia. Gangsters, Mentally Ill, and radicals don't have the resources and capabilities to acquire guns. The only guns that they could possibly get are hunting rifles. Semi-Automatics, high capacity clips, and easily-concealed guns are the problem, not hunting rifles.

Legally speaking though, not anyone can buy a gun. Past gun control acts forbid sales to those who have been involuntarily committed to mental institutions and other groups, for example.
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They can still get it from someone they know, buy it from a private party, or find a shady gun shop that doesn't run background checks.
 
skank said:
If guns were totally banned, who could a moron steal/buy a gun from? In Europe the only people who manage to get guns are very well funded and organized gangs like the mafia. Gangsters, Mentally Ill, and radicals don't have the resources and capabilities to acquire guns. The only guns that they could possibly get are hunting rifles.
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The Norway shooter obtained his guns legally, so it's not like there is a total ban on all guns in all Europe. As UG says, there are already millions of guns in the US. Plus the drug trade has shown that if there is demand for something, then it's possible for millions of tons of it to be sneaked in from South America and distributed to points all over.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
300 million guns in the US, how do put the toothpaste back in the tube? Sounds like you want to go door to door to collect them all...is that what you propose?
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You won't have to go door to door. Ban the sale of guns. Ban the sale of bullets. Have a system put in place for people to get their license to keep their guns for hunting reasons. Give everyone a 2-3 year deadline to either give up their gun or get licensed to own hunting guns. Put heavy fines/jail terms on people who are caught with guns after the deadline. Over time, that 300 Million will go down. In the first 5-10 years, you will get most of the guns out of the troubled neighborhoods. As long as there are guns out there, there will be gun related violence.
Or......

You can do nothing and stand idly by as 12,000 people are murdered every year.

Moxie said:
The Norway shooter obtained his guns legally, so it's not like there is a total ban on all guns in all Europe. As UG says, there are already millions of guns in the US. Plus the drug trade has shown that if there is demand for something, then it's possible for millions of tons of it to be sneaked in from South America and distributed to points all over.
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Sure, incidences still happen. But not as often. Not as many people die. The drug trade and guns can not be compared. You can grow coca plants and marijuana plants in your yard. Making a gun is a lot more complicated. And it can't just be imported from down south, cause all the guns that are in Mexico are made in the US.



On another note, the US should also keep mental hospitals open. People involved in mass murders are not mentally stable and should be looked after carefully.
 
Skank, you are a fucking moron, just get over it.

The experts that actually study this stuff say, the chances of you being a killed in a mass shooting are about the same of being struck by lightning. In short it so rare it's a near statically not relevant.

The Facts about Mass Shootings - John Fund - National Review Online

Not the only article on it, but it does emphasize that mass shootings are not any more common today than they have been in the last decade, and the tops of it was around 1930. The difference is, however, that it has been sensationalized by the media big time lately. Whether it has been ratings driven or government driven I'm not sure.

I find it hilarious how knee jerk this country is, but like the Batman movie killings this will blow over in a few weeks and we'll continue on until the next "travesty." Don't get me wrong some of these things are very sad, but it doesn't change that crazy people do crazy shit and you just need to accept it. Guns don't kill people, people kill people, which is why every one should be armed to the teeth.
 
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