So sick of this shit with Ron Paul!

What type of conservative are you referring to then, as I assume it is also not of the Ron Paul variety?

I do not know a classification or name - but the NeoCons that run Fox are not conservatives - they are Rockefeller republicans.

Ron Paul is conservative I will give you that. I even can appreciate many of his opinions. I suppose he is too conservative for even main stream conservatives. He's actually too far right for my palate.
 


im getting errors when i try to load several pages on his website. more bandwidth for you RP.....

EDIT: Just Kidding:

"The RonPaul2012.com website is under cyber attack. Our team is working to fix this as we speak. So sorry to all who have tried to make donations and could not. We'll have more info ASAP."
 
Always found him a bit extreme. But then the whole of america is extreme anyway.

If the democrats were in the UK they would be more right wing than the Conservatives.
 
On one hand I want him to win because he seems to be honest, which is why the media's puppeteers want him out. On the other hand, I can't help but think that even if he brings honesty to the white house, it isn't enough. The nature of capitalism doesn't allow for honesty, and if he ever tries to downsize corporate influence in the government he will get shot the fuck down immediately, literally or otherwise.

Basically, I just don't think putting one honest guy in the white house is going to change jack shit when he's surrounded by the same old lying motherfuckers who will just undermine everything he tries to do. Besides, the fact that people are voting for Bachmann is a bad fucking omen. How stupid is our society? Look at her face and tell me she is an honest person fit for controlling a nation of people, it's all fuckin stretched out like Ford Prefects, she can't be from this planet.
 
There is so much truth in this. I have been arguing this for so long to many - the problem is that conservatives by their very nature are not into manipulation, they think there is something wrong with not being straightforward. As a result they get no where except mutual agreement within their own ideological ranks.

Liberals in the other hand have a relative sense of morals and ethics and therefore have no problem understanding mass manipulation.

I wish more conservatives understood this - it is so simple.

It's funny to me that you sound like you believe this.
 
man im not even American but I feel like donating money to Ron Paul's campaign.

He is the one man who speaks the truth amongst all the bullshit out there.

I wish more Americans would wake up.
 
There is so much truth in this. I have been arguing this for so long to many - the problem is that conservatives by their very nature are not into manipulation, they think there is something wrong with not being straightforward. As a result they get no where except mutual agreement within their own ideological ranks.

Liberals in the other hand have a relative sense of morals and ethics and therefore have no problem understanding mass manipulation.

I wish more conservatives understood this - it is so simple.

in bold has to be the dumbest fucking statement in the thread
 
and can you believe this bullshit lol...

Breaking Bad clip referencing Ron Paul:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhPHJ9lUq9Y]Ron Paul equated to Nazis and drug dealers - YouTube[/ame]
 
It's funny to me that you sound like you believe this.

He obviously believes it, because it's true, it just doesn't jive with what a retarded liberal believes, which is that Bush was Satan and Rove was Goebbels II. You guys are so clueless it's not even funny.
 
and can you believe this bullshit lol...

Breaking Bad clip referencing Ron Paul:

Ron Paul equated to Nazis and drug dealers - YouTube

I'm not sure this was a jab at Ron Paul. That character mentioned last season he was a Libertarian and adults would get what they wanted either way (legalizing drugs debate) and that his product was the best out there (without toxins). I guess it could go either way though...
 
There is so much truth in this. I have been arguing this for so long to many - the problem is that conservatives by their very nature are not into manipulation, they think there is something wrong with not being straightforward. As a result they get no where except mutual agreement within their own ideological ranks.

Liberals in the other hand have a relative sense of morals and ethics and therefore have no problem understanding mass manipulation.

I wish more conservatives understood this - it is so simple.

im sorry, but there is no way you can logically believe this to be true. it is such a gross over generalization of such a very large group of people. all politics aside....its fucking impossible to be true. you think there are no conservatives that fully understand, appreciate, and implement mass manipulation? for realz?
 
I'm not sure this was a jab at Ron Paul. That character mentioned last season he was a Libertarian and adults would get what they wanted either way (legalizing drugs debate) and that his product was the best out there (without toxins). I guess it could go either way though...

dude...they used the term "nazi" almost simultaneously with the RP reference.

i do see your point though...but with everything else the media so blatantly does...im going to have pull out the tin foil hat for this one.
 
im sorry, but there is no way you can logically believe this to be true. it is such a gross over generalization of such a very large group of people. all politics aside....its fucking impossible to be true. you think there are no conservatives that fully understand, appreciate, and implement mass manipulation? for realz?

I see by your posts that you are amazed at my narrow minded/simple minded stance....for realz....

It was a generalization based on a stereotype. But stereotypes exist for a reason, because they are true in general.

If you are honest with yourself, on reflection, you will concede that I am correct.

Liberals are, in general, much more OK with mass manipulation and relativism than are conservatives, not neo-cons, people that are truly conservative. The intellectual conservative will understand how manipulation works but it goes against their grain to implement such strategies on the grand scale.

The conservative knows that they are right/correct & therefore believes that eventually everyone will see it things their way once it is properly explained. That is why conservatives lose elections - they put too much faith in truth - and while I believe truth will always ultimately prevail, even if the country implodes under current liberalism and truth will rise again, it is a long run strategy.

If you are a die hard liberal then you will not understand what I am talking about because you honestly believe you are right. Conservatives and liberals can be confronted with the exact same facts and see the outcome completely differently. But for the middle, the so called independents, these are the ones that see things both ways and have yet to reflect enough to make an ideological decision. I was once one of these.

But now I understand. The underlying way progressives vs true conservatives see the world is opposite each other. They will never agree. That is why the evil of liberalism needs to be conquered and put down - never negotiated with.
 
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