Shoemoney calls out Barman!

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SUP3RNOVA said:
People here seem to be so against him and with no real reason. I brought up the fact that they've never met him in real life, and don't know much about what he's done with a certain number of businesses. It's true, if you'd like to argue that instead of being a douchebag like everyone else in this post, go ahead.
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I think most just have a problem with the guru crowd in general, myself included. I don't really care how much success the guy has had with ringtones or anything else for that matter. Good for him. Doesn't impact my life one bit. If he wants to leverage his visibility / brand by peddling bullshit info products to noobs, so be it...just don't be a self congratulating, attention whore, douche in the process.
 
I don't know Shoemoney personally, but from the looks of it he's a straight up BOSS.

Who cares if his shoemoney system is good or not, he's making bank from it, therefore you have to at least respect his hustle.
 
Rexibit said:
I can't think of the title of the thread, but there's a great example of it where Shoe threatened to sue Jon just for speaking his mind. Shoe sent a legal letter from his lawyer stating, "It was a defamation of character and hurting his business."

Stuff like that is why people make fun of Shoe, not because they don't think he's a savvy marketer.
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While something like that may be a douchey move, he has to protect his own self interests and that's what he was trying to do I think. A big part of his guru business relies on his reputation and what news find when they Google his name.

I was more addressing those who think he's all hype and lies about his business to gain newbie followers. I know that from personal experience.


nvanprooyen said:
I think most just have a problem with the guru crowd in general, myself included. I don't really care how much success the guy has had with ringtones or anything else for that matter. Good for him. Doesn't impact my life one bit. If he wants to leverage his visibility / brand by peddling bullshit info products to noobs, so be it...just don't be a self congratulating, attention whore, douche in the process.
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If an attention whoring douchebag is what he is, then it is obviously working for him and his business. As someone else stated, it's a "respect the hustle" kind of thing. As I said I was more addressing the people who criticize his actual knowledge and business skills and do actually think he's a fraud.

Can't even tell you the number of people that called me a bullshitter and liar when I posted my Azoogle screenshots. Being an attention whore profits.
 
If anyone watched Top Affiliate Challenge he was on, you would see he can't market for shit, unless you call panhandling for big bucks to keep your campaigns going "marketing"...him and John Chow both blow... use the way back machine on Chows website in the early days and have a good laugh..

Also in before Oprah snaps Shoe for his own talk show..
 
SUP3RNOVA said:
I was more addressing those who think he's all hype and lies about his business to gain newbie followers.
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If you read Barman's PPC.bz post from his link a few posts up, you'd see that his GURU products are mostly hype and under-deliver.

Here's the thread I was thinking of: http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-...guide-how-kill-your-reputation-week-less.html

A lot of what Shoe does is create outlandish crap just for link bait to his site to attract more followers. You can't deny that, and he's even blogged about doing it himself.
 
SHOTS FIRED. Barman lost

You basically got called out and now you admit that you let gaymoney slide because for whatever reason you felt his gurish behavior wasn't on par with the other fags. Maybe you respect his hustle, maybe he was giving you some tips, either way he called you out and you bitched up with a 'mild' response. You shoulda went for the kill shot, one shot one kill, what the deal.

I expect moar.
 
SUP3RNOVA said:
People here seem to be so against him and with no real reason. I brought up the fact that they've never met him in real life, and don't know much about what he's done with a certain number of businesses. It's true, if you'd like to argue that instead of being a douchebag like everyone else in this post, go ahead.



Was that supposed to hurt? Clearly I don't care about my blog traffic as I've posted like 3 times in the past 6 months.
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you also probably don't know some of the people who his direct actions stabbed in the back when you were what, in middle school?

again obviously no offense bro.
 
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