How educated are you?

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I know there's a big range of people here who are either high school drop outs, college drop outs, or to the point of having an MBA.

I'm personally a college drop out after 2 years - art school so not like it matters lol. Happy I dropped out and I should have never went.

How far did you get with your education and do you wish you went further with it?
 


For most of what WF does, and what I do, a college education is just burning money.
 
I went to UMass Amherst for Political Science. I had like 90 credits out of 120, but then I bailed to make websites.

For a while I was like...

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"Damn man, college is tight."

But then I was like...

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So I decided...

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I spent most of high school railing against people going to college undeclared. And I deferred, when I got in, to travel to China and Europe with my domainer money. I was skeptical. But then I went to a couple college parties and that drew me in. Should have done computer science or something. But it's all good. I just pay down the debt in chunks when I get a big hit.

Domain: $8 per year
VA: $3.50 per year
Hosting: $0.01 per hour

I'll be alright son.
 
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I got my Bachelor's Degree in the Netherlands. As a EU citizen I paid 5500 euros in tuition fees for the whole program and I think it was worth it. It may have no direct impact on my online work but it did make me a more well-rounded person who can have a serious conversation about any topic of general culture, politics, or economics.

I think there's more to academia than just getting an education because you need a job. If you're genuinely interested in what you're studying then it is by no means a waste of time IMO.
 
Quit before my last year of a BS in Applied Mathematics to play poker and take care of my fiancee at the time and some crazy medical problems she ran into. I didn't go into any kind of debt over it though. Never went back.
 
I don't even have grade 10, let alone a high school diploma. Missing English 10, which I actually took twice, but got kicked out both times. I blame my older brothers (especially the oldest), as all three of us had the same English teacher, so by the time I got to high school, my family name was already quite, err.. tarnished shall we say. She was a bitch though. School had a policy of 4 absences or 8 lates during a semester (5 months), the teacher can appeal to have you kicked out. She was very strict with me and it was the first class in the morning, so right after being a few mins late 8 times, boom, I'm gone.

The second time she booted me, she decided to be "nice". Pulled me aside, said I'm getting 0% on all future assignments, but gee golly she's such a nice lady, she would let me take the final. So I did, got like 78% or whatever, and final mark in English was 49% (50% is passing). So either, a) she wasn't willing to bump me up 1% to pass, or b) she deliberately doctored the marks to ensure I failed. Either way, she's a bitch for doing that.

Then grade 11 and 12 were done out of country, and Canada wouldn't accept the transcripts from those schools. Then moved away from my parents when I was 17, and just never made it back to school, as it basically required starting from grade 11 all over again. Tried night school once, a community college once, then even a larger IT college, but never lasted.

Was already out of the house, had a job, bills to pay, and with the last IT college already had my first software company going that was bringing in decent money. So sitting there all day listening to some 53 year old lady asking me and 30 others to express our inner feelings towards one of Shakespear's sonnets just really didn't seem like a productive use of my time. Especially since I had to put myself through 2 years of that shit, before I could even start college / university.
 
Graduated from Stanford. Looking back I'm glad I did it. But overall it was a waste of time. Even with the prestigious name my degree has done little to nothing for my career. Maybe if I went corporate, but that will happen as soon as hell freezes over
 
What level of education you completed doesn't matter in IT and business as long as you're an autodidact and most successful people here and elsewhere are. Honestly it's amazing what you can learn all by yourself with this newfangled internet.

Degrees are nice backups if you ever want to be lazy like everyone else. I have a B.S. These days I would prob not do university in 'Merica cause it's an insane debt scam. But other countries aren't as fucked up as 'Merica in this regard.

Also, since most people have a slave mentality (working 9-5 for someone else), they will respect a person more with a degree more.
 
I paid my own way through 2 years worth of college ( no loans, no scholarships, no grants ), not even to the point I could get an Associates since I dropped out to focus on web stuff on my own. College was a huge waste of time and money for me personally. I was going to be an Architect.

Glad I didn't make the mistake of getting into debt over college and being like kids now that:

1. Almost NEVER get a job in their field of study
2. Can not land a job for 12+ months after graduating
3. Have more then $100k+ of student loans to pay back and cant get out of ( talk about saddled with debt for YEARS )
4. Graduate and have to take part-time or low income work that amounts to less than $40k a year salary. ( people go to college for this? )

Oddly enough, the current projects I work on as a digital marketer are for private colleges and universities who can't get leads and enrollments online. I pretty much direct their entire paid marketing budgets for PPC, driving in leads and enrollments for 4 year degrees and degree completion programs.

How ironic...
 
Oddly enough, the current projects I work on as a digital marketer are for private colleges and universities who can't get leads and enrollments online. I pretty much direct their entire paid marketing budgets for PPC, driving in leads and enrollments for 4 year degrees and degree completion programs.

I have also done college marketing since dropping out, it is a funny coincidence - but man do they have cheddar.
 
I went to the community college my jr/sr years of high school. I ended up getting my real estate license and saying fuck this computer shit.

Then when I was 26 I went back to school for an IT degree and realized I hate hardware, networking, operating systems, and spent my time programming. I played around with XNA then moved to Unity 3d game engine, and after a few years I use it for a living at my dream job. I had 5 classes left when I dropped out of school.

I had brain surgery which was the main reason I dropped out.
 
Dropped out of college in my very last semester. As you can see my WF join date is November 2011. My last semester was spring 2012.

I discovered and learned so much in those couple months that I couldn't stomach even one more semester of college. Not only did I know it was a waste of time (I was majoring in fucking philosophy) but it was detracting from time I'd rather be spending trying to figure out how to make a living on my own.

Thankfully I had a bunch of scholarships and grants so I ended up with no debt. Thank you jaysus.
 
What level of education you completed doesn't matter in IT and business as long as you're an autodidact and most successful people here and elsewhere are. Honestly it's amazing what you can learn all by yourself with this newfangled internet.

Degrees are nice backups if you ever want to be lazy like everyone else. I have a B.S. These days I would prob not do university in 'Merica cause it's an insane debt scam. But other countries aren't as fucked up as 'Merica in this regard.

Also, since most people have a slave mentality (working 9-5 for someone else), they will respect a person more with a degree more.

Learned a new word today. Thanks.
 
Graduated in 1996 from a three year design and illustration program at, what was at the time, a Vancouver college called Capilano College. It now has university status.

The course and teachers were cool, but a bit dated since much of what they were teaching was old school techniques. The Internet was just breaking and they didn't teach anything about designing for the web yet. A few years later and the school launched all kind of multimedia courses, but not while I was there. We were still being taught wax pasteup and process camera work for publishing.

Overall, for my knowledge, skill set, job prospects and debt load, it was mostly a colossal waste of time. However, I did meet a lot of people that became good friends, and it ultimately led me to my first Internet job which was designing for an adult entertainment company.

We also went as a class to New York City in the graduate year for 10 days (was supposed to be 8 but we got caught up in the "blizzard of '96"). Saw all the galleries in the city, went to some cool night clubs and whatnot.
 
Had to defer the past semester because of wonderful family drama but I've got 5-6 classes before I graduate with my BS in Human Biology. Wish I had majored in something closer to comp sci, software engineering or even just business management. I love my program but don't see a future in the positions available to a BS and I was fortunate enough to realize I didn't actually want to be a doctor before I started bracing for 250K of medical school debt.

Fanciest I've ever really gotten with it all would be doin some work in an Ivy League lab (not my school).

I've got my eyes on a dual degree Master's program at a local private university - would like to bankroll those degrees with Digital Marketing which ended up leading me here (extreme summation).
 
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Graduated in 1996 from a three year design and illustration program at, what was at the time, a Vancouver college called Capilano College. It now has university status.

The course and teachers were cool, but a bit dated since much of what they were teaching was old school techniques. The Internet was just breaking and they didn't teach anything about designing for the web yet. A few years later and the school launched all kind of multimedia courses, but not while I was there. We were still being taught wax pasteup and process camera work for publishing.

Overall, for my knowledge, skill set, job prospects and debt load, it was mostly a colossal waste of time. However, I did meet a lot of people that became good friends, and it ultimately led me to my first Internet job which was designing for an adult entertainment company.

We also went as a class to New York City in the graduate year for 10 days (was supposed to be 8 but we got caught up in the "blizzard of '96"). Saw all the galleries in the city, went to some cool night clubs and whatnot.


I think since you're coming from a traditional art background that gives you a huge leg up over competition though. I feel like a lot of designers can't do much out of design but someone coming from having to do a lot of media/with hands is more creative.