Anyone else hate not being a programmer?

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I was really into computers back in the 90's when I was just a little kid but was always pushed to play sports. Had a short period of time where I'd play with photoshop, illustrator, 3d studio max, etc. Read a C++ book and made some simple stuff one summer but that's it.

Kind of frustrating that I have to outsource all of my developer work. Nothing stopping me from learning now, but I can't help but wish I would have taken the time when I was younger to learn to program.

Wish I could chug mountain dew and bang out some side projects every weekend. Anyone else feel the same?
 
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programming is boring. It would be nice to learn, but like they say, time is money. Would you rather spend a lot of time programming something or outsource and not have to deal with it?
 
What's stopping you from learning?

I some cases you don't even need to "learn", for instance php.net is built as such that as long as you have a logical brain and can follow simple instructions, there's literally no reason you cannot get started.

Of course, if you want to learn best practices, follow example codes, then a book/tutorial would be worth a look.

But honestly, just check out a hello world example in your language of choice, your natural curiosity should take you further as it did most programmers. If you find you're not interested and naturally curious, stick with it a little while longer, see how you feel then.

Why not get started today?
 
erifdekciw said:
programming is boring. It would be nice to learn, but like they say, time is money. Would you rather spend a lot of time programming something or outsource and not have to deal with it?
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It can be when you're coding for someone else.

I code for my own projects, honestly I never get bored, often do 20 hours continuously without thinking about it.
 
mpbiz said:
I was really into computers back in the 90's when I was just a little kid but was always pushed to play sports. Had a short period of time where I'd play with photoshop, illustrator, 3d studio max, etc. Read a C++ book and made some simple stuff one summer but that's it.

Kind of frustrating that I have to outsource all of my developer work. Nothing stopping me from learning now, but I can't help but wish I would have taken the time when I was younger to learn to program.

Wish I could chug mountain dew and bang out some side projects every weekend. Anyone else feel the same?
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Stop whining and just do it. If you wanted to do it, you'd have done it by now. There's tons of resources out there to learn, and you can do it at any age.

erifdekciw said:
programming is boring. It would be nice to learn, but like they say, time is money. Would you rather spend a lot of time programming something or outsource and not have to deal with it?
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Depends on the business you want to run. If you want to run a SaaS start-up for example, it's more or less fundamental that at least one of the founders has strong technical knowledge.

Comments like yours show a fundamental misunderstanding of programming. If you're having a plugin done to show your most popular Wordpress posts, sure, outsource it. If you're building the next Instagram, Hubspot, Twitter or Buffer, good luck bro.

Revenge of the Nerds

The pointy-haired boss miraculously combines two qualities that are common by themselves, but rarely seen together: (a) he knows nothing whatsoever about technology, and (b) he has very strong opinions about it.

Suppose, for example, you need to write a piece of software. The pointy-haired boss has no idea how this software has to work, and can't tell one programming language from another, and yet he knows what language you should write it in. Exactly. He thinks you should write it in Java.

Why does he think this? Let's take a look inside the brain of the pointy-haired boss. What he's thinking is something like this. Java is a standard. I know it must be, because I read about it in the press all the time. Since it is a standard, I won't get in trouble for using it. And that also means there will always be lots of Java programmers, so if the programmers working for me now quit, as programmers working for me mysteriously always do, I can easily replace them.
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Springs to mind.
 
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Just do it, I am myself the same as you op and I've just taken a week here to get started doing basically nothing else workwise.

I believe it is going to be a smart decision in the end. I am very tired of not being able to execute ideas because I cant code.
 
erifdekciw said:
programming is boring. It would be nice to learn, but like they say, time is money. Would you rather spend a lot of time programming something or outsource and not have to deal with it?
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This is a disastrous attitude to take to programming.

You are trusting a project to people with absolutely no ability to know whether what they produce is the best thing since sliced bread or a shit sandwich.

And if you're sourcing from places like oDesk and elance, I know what 99% of the time you're going to end up with.
 
I didn't like to spend large amounts of hours in front of a monitor to code a few pages so I never looked into programming.

Instead, I now outsource what I need from programmers that were found by lots of trial and error.

It's a disadvantage to not be a coder and not have the cash or the right guy to code what you need. Either way, most of the things that can make your work easier can be outsourced and that kind of things usually won't cost you more than a few hundreds.

If you are looking into software development & selling or even just complex software development for yourself then drop it or become a great programmer. You can't create a good software if you are not a great programmer because you need to make sure everything works good and doesn't break at the first click.
 
if you don't enjoy programming, you're not going to be able go the extra mile to make it work. so i think you're right to outsource if you're that way inclined.

i remember my first program on my c64 when i was 10
10 print "hello world"
20 goto 10

hit run and was in complete awe that i had controlled the beast, that i'd bent the machine to my will. i was hooked. i show stuff like that my nephews and they don't give a fuck. if you don't feel that awe from some code, you're not going to last IMO
 
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This is a disastrous attitude to take to programming.

You are trusting a project to people with absolutely no ability to know whether what they produce is the best thing since sliced bread or a shit sandwich.

And if you're sourcing from places like oDesk and elance, I know what 99% of the time you're going to end up with.
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This is what I'm dealing with now and things are going a lot more smoothly.
 
As others said it doesn't have to take too long. I had a specific custom app I wanted done a few months ago. Spent a week doing 16 hour days learning Python and had it completed at the end of it.

No where near a master of the language but the general concepts came pretty quickly if you immerse yourself in it.
 
Every successful Internet Marketing IS a programmer or has an excellent programmer biz partner [:

There is nothing nastier than a team of capitalist internet marketing programmers.
 
lol it's never too late to learn.

It's one of the most empowering skills you can learn. It's extremely rewarding.

I have more fun dicking around in a game engine than watching TV or doing much of anything else.

And after 3 years of doing it as a hobby in my free time I had the skills needed to land my dream job and love going to work every day.

I was in running start and went to college my jr/sr years of high school but ended up getting into real estate and saying fuck computers. Didn't get interested in programming again until I was 26.
 
I'd like to, but honestly I feel spending my time learning how to run a business is a better investment. Programmers can be expensive, but nothing is as expensive or compromising to a business than hiring a CEO because you don't know what you are doing.
 
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