Making money with Google Adsense

OK, this is Moe Bedard talking here and BlastYourAss is taking a break. This is a serious discussion and exchange of information thread. If you want to take shots at me or be an internet gangster, please start another thread and I will gladly fight you over the internet. But not here, please.

Making money with Google Adsense is the best way to have steady income if you do it right. I do not understand why many affiliate marketers do not build content sites over the long term for stable income in the future. But to each his own and I respect that even though I may call you an affiliate whore or whatever, I don't mean it. You just need to think clearly about the long term and not just the short term.

I am writing this to wake some of the newbies up to the fact that there is no fast money online. Most everything you see or hear is just hype. I too fell for the hype when I was new internet marketer. But not for long.

I started a website a few years ago where I do just that. In fact, I spoke about it here on WickedFire and tried to recruit others as partners or contributors. I worked with SeEO Mike, but it didn't work. I can be a hard ass with my business and Mike dont take shit. We went our separate ways. Many of the WF ole schoolers rippped me a new internet ass and said I was an idiot. Many were ballers at affiliate marketing or so they said. I dunno and stil dunno.

Well, I didn't listen and decided to work on a content website with a forum that helps people with foreclosure. I predicted the trend of loan modifications and the foreclosure crisis. This prediction with my hard work led me to be bale to work with Google and be able to work from home full time with a great income.

Two websites bring in most all my income and it is from Google Adsense. I can rely on the BIG G every month to send me a check and that check is going to be good. I don't have to worry about my next offer, affiliate managers, landing pages or anything.

A lot of people do not like Google, but I am very, very happy with the Big G. I am thankful and blessed to be able to have this opportunity.

I live on 5 acres in Southern California with 4,00o square feet, a pool, office and 3 car garage. I have a beautiful wife who I married last year and went to Maui. I have 5 kids who I support and my oldest son now worked for me full time also. Plus I have 2 other crew members who work on site here in my home office. I do not worry about my bills, my nest offer or anything right now. It is the life I always dreamed of.

This is no bullshit and is 100% verifiable. This is also being done in one of the worst economies ever. I am sharing this to wake some internet marketers up.

If you are a newbie or veteran, please feel free to ask me questions about what I do or Google. Please also share your Google Adsense stories if you are successful. Even if it is not Google Adsense and you have a content site, then please share it.

conv3rsion: Has it maybe occurred to you that there is a lot more money for the people buying ad space on those same adsense sites then the for the people creating them? Or has it maybe occurred to you that you are likely relying on google for both the majority of your traffic and your monetization efforts?

I have adsense sites that bring in a few hundred a month that I haven't touched in years. Its peanuts.

Final point, if you were smart, you would figure out who was paying for the majority
of your adsense money, go to them directly (yielding higher ROI for both parties), and cut Google out.

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I hear you and I am happy with Google because I do not have to chase advertisers or pray their check is good. For two years I had attorneys who paid me and it was a nightmare to try and get paid. I am happy in sharing with G for less headaches and handling all the accounting, collecting and as targeting.2

Bizkiller: How long did it take you to get those steady income?
and... are you good at SEO?

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I have worked on these websites since the summer of 2007 when I firt joined the WickedFire. I learned a lot here on what to do and what not to do. I think SEO is very simple and yes, I am pretty darn good now. No blackhat stuff.

AllBizNiz: Out of curiosity, have you ever tried PPC or have you always just stuck with organic?

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Yes, I did PPC and had some success. I just pursue the long tail all day, very day.

DorainWar: What do you do if Google decides to shut down your adsense account?
I know a couple people that were in a similar situation as you... with a few 'big money' adsense sites... then they got that dreaded email about being banned.
but I agree with you about what you're saying here. Slow-n-steady hard work on great content sites is a good strategy... building authority sites. Finding a well paying niche is also important (like your mortgage/foreclosure sites).

Can I ask what percent of your traffic is from organic search?

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Yes, that has crossed my mind and I would be bummed, but not dead in the water. I am a born salesman and have sold just about everything under the sun. All I would have to do is get my sales hat on and do what Google does for me now. It is like having a paid salesman on staff who does it all.

Yes, you want a niche where you will get good money per click. There are still many, many niches out there to get that $$$ per click.

100% of my traffic is organic.

Infinite Keith: appreciate the offer to help.
I have a domain I thought about developing. It's a silly domain name, but I feel like it could appeal to a select group of people interested in, I don't know how to put it, but internet culture.

I thought about doing a podcast. It would focus on things I enjoy. Indie music, video games, maybe some affiliate stuff. I thought about having these cheesy skits and stuff like that.

I would want a forums. Break the categories down to the things the podcast covers. Music, games, funny internet memes? I dunno, I'm still playing with ideas.
But, I am interested in starting a content site. I guess I really am not sure where to start.

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No problem man. It all start with an idea, but is that idea viable and monetizable is the question? I think a website like that would be fun as hell, but not make you much money or that niche is just too saturated.

I think that one needs to be able to predict trends and be the best website in that niche. Personally I feel the internet has changed and is wide open for a new type of internet marketer. People need help out there and they are not buying too much.

onlinemoniez said:

Always nice to hear success stories. If that were me I would be diversifying the shit out of my business (not that you're not). The G is a fickle whore, and I personally hate her guts.

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I am loyal to their TOS and study the Big G. They have 85% search market share and growing. They are not going anywhere. They are a company that if I make them happy, they make me happy. All they want is good content sites that do nothing shady.

pocketrockets said:

Every person I know who was banned from Adsense was doing something shady -- either running adult content their site, clicking their own ads with multiple IP's, doing black hat stuff, etc.

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You got it. Just do not do as those who have been banned.

Moe's forum is helping people all in a similar situation. It's completely transparent and I doubt Google would ever object or terminate him. Adsense isn't the perfect way to monetize every site but in his case I'm sure it's the easiest. With 1,000+ pages of forum content I'm sure it would be a huge headache to sell direct ads not to mention actually be paid on time!

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True. With Google Adsense, you set it and forget it. Also when you do well, you get your own Google Account Executive that works with you via email.

Moe's success is a great example of being a first mover to a major problem.

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Thanks man. You're right. I ma no better or smarter than anyone. I just saw a need and trend and then moved in to fill the hole on the web. Everything is a gamble, but if you do this right, the odds are in favor of the smart and patient webmaster

Mike619 said:

im getting decent money from google every month now, gonna increase more if i work harder.

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That's it. Good to hear. Work hard on the long tail keywords and write the long tail articles. If you do that daily, each one of those articles will pay off and be compounded. Every article you write should be SEO focused and original.

BullsEye said:

Moe, what kinds of trend research do you do in terms of building a site and then deciding to SEO it for the long term? I assume this is like any other niche in the industry, the higher the competition the more $$ there is to be made.

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Great question. Yes, yes, it is all about trend forecasting. You have to somewhat predict the future or dominate a niche. Personally, I think it is easier to predict future trends then dominate an already saturated niche. There are many NEW niches being formed right now.

I assume you don't have the same headaches that the smash and grab AM's here have, like always worrying daily that you've put all your eggs in one basket with G, because with adsense, and building a legit long term content site, you're not really doing any things shady and you actually are contributing to the user experience.

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Exactly. Google is the one who takes care of everything and has everyone knows, they do not mess around with fraudsters. Hence, I do not have to worry about crap and all I have to do is run my forum and add content to my websites.

I for one am very interested to learn more about this side of the industry as i'm sure, after awhile, any serious marketer gets tired of doing a shitload of work only to have a hot offer capped or turned off, or being banned, or a number of other bullshit scenarios that can bring you house of cards crashing down with the quickness

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I am glad you see the light. You asked some great questions and have a good head. My tip is to start thining about future trends and ideas. Find one where you will get decent money pere click. Start 2-4 websites in 1-2 niches and just do it!!