Political Compass

turbolapp

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I thought we should revisit the Political Compass thread http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/18449-where-you-political-compass.html because after 2 years with so much political change and a forum full of very opinionated members, I thought it would be interesting to see where we all stand again. (and some for the first time.) The forum wouldn't let me repost in it though after I opened it (it said something like like "Are you crazy? No one has posted in this thread for almost 800 days!!!1!") So I'm starting a new one. Here's the test: The Political Compass

I had thought that I was moving more towards Libertarian side and this confirms it. But it also says I moved slightly towards the right (holy shit!) although i think that may just be because I've taken on alot more Libertarian ideas in the last couple of years.

2 years ago:

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Today:

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Right and left is a false paradigm. On the far right, you have Hitler, on the far left you have Stalin. In the center, you have nearly every western politician from Bush to Obama.

The only thing that matters is liberty vs authority.

Do you support people being free to pursue their own ends, even if they differ from yours, so long as they do not infringe on your liberty?

Do you support taking property from others against their will, as long as you can rationalize the ends (feed the poor, build a highway etc.)?

Do you believe it is wrong to initiate the use of force against someone who has not used force against you?


If you answered, yes, no, and yes, you are a libertarian.
If you got 2 out of 3, you have libertarian inclinations (small gov liberal or conservative).
If you got 1 out of 3, you are a conservative or liberal
If you got none, you are an authoritarian.
 
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Thought I'd be further down - but guess not. Didn't think the quiz was that comprehensive.
 
Right and left is a false paradigm. On the far right, you have Hitler, on the far left you have Stalin. In the center, you have nearly every western politician from Bush to Obama.

The only thing that matters is liberty vs authority.

Do you support people being free to pursue their own ends, even if they differ from yours, so long as they do not infringe on your liberty?

Do you support taking property from others against their will, as long as you can rationalize the ends (feed the poor, build a highway etc.)?

Do you believe it is wrong to initiate the use of force against someone who has not used force against you?


If you answered, yes, no, and yes, you are a libertarian.
If you got 2 out of 3, you have libertarian inclinations (small gov liberal or conservative).
If you got 1 out of 3, you are a conservative or liberal
If you got none, you are an authoritarian.

Listen, you big tease, where's your test results? You were on the list of people I want to see take this damn thing :D

Edit: and with regards to what you said, I may be biased (as I lean libertarian) but it's hard to believe that ANYONE would not answer those questions yes no yes. So in other words I think you framed those in a way that would sway people's answers. Kinda like when the relgious right says "You don't believe in killing babies do you?"
 
Listen, you big tease, where's your test results? You were on the list of people I want to see take this damn thing :D
The problem is, the questions are really loaded. More loaded than you think my questions are.

But, because you want me to take it, I will take it. I suspect the compass might get broken by my answers though, because in some cases, I can't answer and there is no option to not answer.

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So there you have it. Apparently, I am less than completely libertarian. And yet, as far as I know, I don't hold a single principle which is in conflict with libertarianism. The problem with this quiz, is that they are testing on two axises simultaneously and accept 4 degrees of positive response.
 
Guess I hang out with Ghandi and the Dhali Lama. And ya, the questions are very limiting.

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Most of the times I wasn't comfortable saying agree or disagree because the question was so vague and could be read both ways.

This question for example:

"If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations."

Who says the two are mutually exhaustive?

And this one:

"Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment."

Again, bringing inflation down has proven to hike unemployment sometimes, but a coherent economic strategy would address both concerns.

And this one:

"The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders."

"Social" responsibility? This question derives from a line of thinking that says capitalists only care about profit and could give two shits about providing quality, whereas many times the two go hand in hand, mostly because they're forced to.

"Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public."

Mislead the public? How? Advertising? Selling a defunct product? The vagueness of the questions is such that they're steering people to a foregone conclusion.

"All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind."

Again, extremely vague. Different sorts? Races? Cultures? Gender? Age? How are they classifying people?

Ultimately, I think if there was a more honest, clear survey asking people about basic concepts like free market principles combined with social policies, most people would fall in the libertarian-right range.
 



I go center left or center right on these(depending on how its weighted or how the questions are phrased, or if they give you a N/A choice) but always leaning libertarian.


Turbo, I thought you were supposed to be a flaming lib?


guerilla said:
In the center, you have nearly every western politician from Bush to Obama.

This is why I like them all and like them all about the same. They need status quo fags like me to get elected.