It sucks to be white, working class and patriotic in the UK

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There was a punch-up recently at an anti-Islamism march in England. People on both sides were involved in the fighting, were arrested, charged and sentenced. Interesting correlation between the racial profile and the sentences.

Needs further investigation (might be reasons for the differences) but Judges coming down hard on non-Muslims and being light with Muslims has happened before.

Note also those which were charged with assaulting an officer - considered to be one of the worst and stupidest things you can do in a riot or brawl.

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Stand strong Britain. Don't let these radicals fuck up your country.
 
Calling it a correlation negates the argument you're trying to imply.
 
-joe- said:
Skinheads going to a march to fight and stir shit get longer sentences than people getting pissed off about the skinheads?

Stop the presses.
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Except Roheel Rashid was convicted for assaulting a police officer, which is presumably more serious than any of the other offenses right? 12 weeks vs several years for the other guys?

lol britain britain lol
 
charlesmartel said:
The benefit of living on an island is that you can drive the invaders into the sea.
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Countries who have decidedly chosen to adopt multi-cultural policies have already committed suicide. I keep hearing how people are going to get up and do something if eventually they actually did infiltrate government and institute sharia law, yeah right.

People aren't going to do shit, they're just going to complain.
 
20figures said:
Countries who have decidedly chosen to adopt multi-cultural policies have already committed suicide. I keep hearing how people are going to get up and do something if eventually they actually did infiltrate government and institute sharia law, yeah right.

People aren't going to do shit, they're just going to complain.
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In the West, the masses generally don't want multi-cultural policies but they are pushed onto them by certain groups. In the US, that group is the Jews, which is curious because they push open immigration for the US but not Israel.
 
20figures said:
Countries who have decidedly chosen to adopt multi-cultural policies have already committed suicide. I keep hearing how people are going to get up and do something if eventually they actually did infiltrate government and institute sharia law, yeah right.

People aren't going to do shit, they're just going to complain.
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I don't condone the following but it shows that people are getting pissed-off. Also, a lot of things do not get reported.

Lee Rigby murder: Grimsby mosque firebombers Ex-soldiers Stuart Harness and Gavin Humphries jailed for six years for arson attack after drummer was killed - Mirror Online
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
Except Roheel Rashid was convicted for assaulting a police officer, which is presumably more serious than any of the other offenses right? 12 weeks vs several years for the other guys?

lol britain britain lol
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Not necessarily, it's impossible to say without knowing more about the individual cases, you can't judge whether a sentence was fair just by looking at the crime and how others happened to be sentenced that day.

Could you say that the judges discriminate against people called Mohammed, because he got 14 weeks, non-suspended for what could potentially be a very mild crime? (Section 5 of the Public Order Act is commonly used as a way to shut up over-aggressive drunk people who are getting in the way of dealing with a proper crime, all it takes is a bit of swearing)

Violent disorder could be a very broad range of things, as could assaulting a police officer. I'm sure you know how broad the word 'assault' is, and the law treats assault of a plainclothes officer the same way.
 
kumansk said:
george zimmerman walks free

lol murica #1
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OJ Simpson walked free too, but I don't see how any of that is relevant to this case. In Murica We have something called the burden of proof, and if it isn't met then the person isn't convicted.

In the Zimmerman case it was pretty clear cut that he was being assaulted, and although I feel like he overreacted, his reaction was well within the law. If someone is on top of you bashing your head into the concrete, how many times do you think you're required to allow your head to be bashed in to the ground before you're allowed to defend yourself with deadly force?

Juries make mistakes, but in the Zimmerman case they made the correct decision. That's why every defense of Trayvon that you hear is emotional, and every defense of Zimmerman is based in law.

Anyway, fuck both of them, and fuck the British legal system too. I'm not sure why you brought a completely unrelated case into this, unless of course you generally react with emotion to these things...like a woman.

-joe- said:
Not necessarily, it's impossible to say without knowing more about the individual cases, you can't judge whether a sentence was fair just by looking at the crime and how others happened to be sentenced that day.

Could you say that the judges discriminate against people called Mohammed, because he got 14 weeks, non-suspended for what could potentially be a very mild crime? (Section 5 of the Public Order Act is commonly used as a way to shut up over-aggressive drunk people who are getting in the way of dealing with a proper crime, all it takes is a bit of swearing)

Violent disorder could be a very broad range of things, as could assaulting a police officer. I'm sure you know how broad the word 'assault' is, and the law treats assault of a plainclothes officer the same way.
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I don't know any specifics of the case, I'm just pointing out that the more serious charge resulted in FAR less time. If the ethnicities of the perpetrators were reversed how would that look?
 
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Unarmed Gunman said:
I don't know any specifics of the case, I'm just pointing out that the more serious charge resulted in FAR less time. If the ethnicities of the perpetrators were reversed how would that look?
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I wouldn't say that, people get charged with assaulting a police officer all the time, I'd be willing to bet there's at least 2 in the courts section of my local small town paper this week. Violent disorder is much less common, and is much more likely to be serious, assaulting a police officer can be serious, but that's rare. To use a very weak point, I'd also point out that while all of the Muslim guys clearly have regret in their eyes in the mugshots, the skinheads all have a DGAF expression, and I wouldn't be surprised if their attitudes played a part.

I'd pick any of the Muslims in the OP to meet in a dark alley over any of the white guys, no question.
 
It sucks to be white, working class and patriotic in the UK
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Insult to working class people.

See also Teen avoids jail over Walsall EDL violence as nine more sentenced - Birmingham Mail
Note also those which were charged with assaulting an officer - considered to be one of the worst and stupidest things you can do in a riot or brawl.
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Benjamin Banfield - "hand-to-hand fighting with police"

Dean Lidster "was consistently at the front of the demonstration attacking police officers"

"Shultz had 92 previous convictions."
 
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