Germany pulls NY held gold

schockergd

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This is BIG news. Germany has a crapton of gold in New York vaults, it has been there since the 50s-60s.

A prevailing theory has been that the gold really isn't there, and that the US has stolen or skimmed it all to pay debts over the past 20 years. Now they have demanded it all be returned.


3 months ago they stated that they would never want it all bank because the US was too good of a place to hold it.

It Begins: Bundesbank To Commence Repatriating Gold From New York Fed | Zero Hedge
 


It's the of the 4th Reich!

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Now they have demanded it all be returned.

they are only returning parts and I couldn't find how much exactly.
however they are returning everything from Paris.
anyway, it think you guys are watching too much Alex Jones.
 
they are only returning parts and I couldn't find how much exactly.
however they are returning everything from Paris.
anyway, it think you guys are watching too much Alex Jones.

From my understanding , in November they stated they would just want to look at it. December they wanted a little back, now they want it all.
 
can we just get someone thats really good with photoshop to send them a picture of their gold in the safe?
 
From my understanding , in November they stated they would just want to look at it. December they wanted a little back, now they want it all.

London -> nothing changes
Paris -> no more German gold
New York -> let us physically check if our gold is still there and get it partly back to Germany.

the Bundesbank will publish more details about this tomorrow.

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Wow.

An old adage comes to mind: "If you're going to panic, panic First."

Sounds like Germany is panicking correctly... But there hasn't been a lot of information/speculation on WHY they are panicking yet.

Could Germany just be hitting some hard times and happen to NEED their gold back? Or perhaps there is some famous German nation ego growing out of control in the Reichstag again, like has happened twice before, and it needs funding...

Oddly it might not be a trust issue with US banks, like I would first guess... There could be all kinds of reasons, and some of them not very hard to believe. Meanwhile, if it was just a lack of trust in the Fed, then wouldn't other countries in worse positions pull out of the fed first? (Such as all of the PIGS.)

It probably doesn't matter though. This could very well start the final downward fall of the USD no matter why it happened. Time for me to exchange the last of my USD now... Good luck bros.
 
Give us back our jew gold!

It's the of the 4th Reich!

LuLz I bet alot of it was jew gold from the 30-40s. Regardless though, I saw this on Jesse Ventura (the episode about the gold not being in Fort Knox). They also talked about Germany putting its gold with the US. I highly doubt we have any gold left, but the theory of us having it is whats keeping us in business.
 
This like most big international incidents is probably because of several items.

The PIGS might be part of the problem but more likely as Germany is considering getting out of the EU or is seeing a limit in it's interest in propping up the spenders/"lazy" of Europe.

The United States continues to have problems with any real debt reform. It took months for them to decide to push the decision back and really they did not meet that deadline.

The US economy remains shaky.

And they probably did not like what they were hearing when they were talking with the Fed. If you give someone billions and they cannot let you walk through and see it that is huge red flag. They could put up dividers if it was important to not see other countries gold.
 
Wow.

An old adage comes to mind: "If you're going to panic, panic First."

Sounds like Germany is panicking correctly... But there hasn't been a lot of information/speculation on WHY they are panicking yet.

Could Germany just be hitting some hard times and happen to NEED their gold back? Or perhaps there is some famous German nation ego growing out of control in the Reichstag again, like has happened twice before, and it needs funding...

Oddly it might not be a trust issue with US banks, like I would first guess... There could be all kinds of reasons, and some of them not very hard to believe. Meanwhile, if it was just a lack of trust in the Fed, then wouldn't other countries in worse positions pull out of the fed first? (Such as all of the PIGS.)

It probably doesn't matter though. This could very well start the final downward fall of the USD no matter why it happened. Time for me to exchange the last of my USD now... Good luck bros.

There's a few prevailing theories.

#1 (The "Accepted" version) - Germany is getting greedy and doesn't want to pay NY or any other bank to hold their gold, so they're moving it all back home so they don't have to pay anyone.

#2 (My theory) - Germany inspected the BNY vaults back in November. They didn't like what they saw. BNY refused for more than a solid month to let them review the assets that are rightfully theirs. This was more than enough time to truck in gold from other places or to play games with it. Afterwards BNY let them review something like only 5% of the gold that is held there, far less than they are owed. During this time, they felt very uncomfortable with BNY and decided to withdraw it. Personally, I have a major concern that BNY is working with COMEX to use the foreign gold reserves to float physical delivery.

When UTexas closed their gold contract for $1 billion of gold (Only 664,300 ounces), comex took something like 3 days to provide it to them for inspection, beyond the required margin for delivery. This was early last year when gold was around $1400-$1500 per ounce.

This SHOULD be of major concern to any bank who holds gold in US reserves. If Comex can't pony up with a measly 6,643 gold bars, what happens when Germany asks for their 44,572,500 gold bars?


#3 (A popular one) - Germany plans in the near future to see the EU collapse and re-introduce a gold mark. It wasn't that long ago that West Germany backed the mark with gold, and they could do it again with the over 3,000 tons of gold they have.
 
LuLz I bet alot of it was jew gold from the 30-40s. Regardless though, I saw this on Jesse Ventura (the episode about the gold not being in Fort Knox). They also talked about Germany putting its gold with the US. I highly doubt we have any gold left, but the theory of us having it is whats keeping us in business.

The US has gold, tons of it, but the question that remains to be seen is "How much and where is it?"

We SHOULD have more than 8,000 tons of the stuff, but comex is running so low on silver & gold reserves, it makes me think that there isn't much physical to go around. Paper gold/silver is only backed by physical right now at a rate of 3% to 5%.
 
inb4 Germany finds safe full of iou notes.

"They're as good as money sir, they're IOUs..... Oh look, here's one for $1,000,000,000. You might want to hang on to that one."

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