How I failed as a business owner

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onthewayup

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I was trying to decide whether I was going to post this or not, because I'm going to get flamed either way. But I look at this as a business experience with a lesson learned. Hopefully someone else can learn from my situation.

I lost $8k to a competitor. In a matter of 2-3 weeks. At first I thought it was childish games like normal kids play, and that it would end in time.

Nope, I lost $8k trying to fix a ddos attack I was receiving from Nanexo. That shit was so powerful, it took $5k between hosting costs, the security "guru" costs to have it look into what the problems could be, and a nother 3k in refunds. And after everytime we thought we had it fixed, it would come back doublethe strength as before. It got so bad, that my network kicked me off because it was bringing down the entire network. Not just my dedicated server, but my hosting company's entire network.

Now, all i can possibly do is find another host, but the problem is that many networks aren't going to want to get near the network, + all it takes is for one client to give nanexo the domain list and he'll be at it again.

So now, I have to spend all my time, + in the middle of moving to a new house, trying to find a host that won't be either a ripoff due to the lack of ddos protection they have, or won't completely ignore me.

So Nanexo, you win. Man to man, you win. Whatever I did to you that pissed you off that much, then maybe I deserved it.

So how did I fail as a business owner? I depended too much on wickedfire for my business, and not enough on expanding within other markets. Maybe I didn't treat other providers fairly, i'm not sure.

So flame away, lol. I'm only being real about the situation. Nobody else get's this shit - you try and tell this to your family and their just lost. At least anyone with a business online knows the ups and downs you go through, no one gets that if they don't know much about computers.

But yea, I'm still trying to find the right server, but its a ton of calls and emails i have to deal with, so hopefully i'll be back soon or something. Right now, I'm at a loss for words. I've been through hell and back this past 3 weeks. My body can't take this stress any longer. That's why I had to write this, to get this shit off my back that everyone's been questioning me and asking me about.

To all my clients: As soon as I find the right host to help with the attacks, your packages will be completed. PM me for information.

Mods: I never meant no disrespect to you guys, even in this post. I shouldn't have bombarded you guys with pms and all the drama I created a few weeks back. That was uncalled for, and I shouldn't have done that. You guys are doing a great job with the site, so mad respect to you guys.

To anyone else, if you have a hosting company that may be able to deal with ddos attacks from the network side and not the server side only, then hit me up via pm. Anyone that knows about ddos protection services that aren't too expensive, just hit me up with the information so I can check it out.

Anyone with ANY ideas, just hit me up. I'll (and my security "guru") will try anything out.
 


Here's an idea... Pursue your legal routes. Skin the guy alive. Stop posting anything publicly.
 
There are no legal routes, he's not in the U.S. And I think it's a wee bit too late for that as far as posting shit publically.

I'm doing this as a way to vent, and to make sure everyone knows why my sites have been so shitty lately as far as consistently going up and down.

P.S. - I already said I know i'm going to get flamed for this. View this as a business experience to learn from.
 
It's not about ddosing each others servers. I wasn't looking for revenge when this happened, so I tried to just leave it alone, and hope it would stop.

With that being said, i neither have the knowledge to do a ddos attack, nor do I have the funds for a ddos attack. The only reason I do SEO is because of my family, so I can't spend weeks on trying to figure out a way to get him back.
 
There are no legal routes, he's not in the U.S. And I think it's a wee bit too late for that as far as posting shit publically.

I'm doing this as a way to vent, and to make sure everyone knows why my sites have been so shitty lately as far as consistently going up and down.

P.S. - I already said I know i'm going to get flamed for this. View this as a business experience to learn from.

Where is this guy located?
 
I don't think it would be fair to tell people where he's from. All i know is that he's out of the U.S., and the laws state that you can do nothing about it, unless he's in the U.S.
 
I don't think it would be fair to tell people where he's from. All i know is that he's out of the U.S., and the laws state that you can do nothing about it, unless he's in the U.S.

The guy's committing an act of cyberterrorism and you don't think it's fair to say where he's from?

At first I thought you were just being tactful, now I think you're being too passive about the situation.
 
I don't think it would be fair to tell people where he's from. All i know is that he's out of the U.S., and the laws state that you can do nothing about it, unless he's in the U.S.

Unless he lives in Iraq or maybe Libya or something, I find it hard to believe there are no legal routes you can take. Basically all developed and developing countries have laws against this. And if he's in a developing country, even better, because then there's a very good chance the country is corrupt and laws are so broad, they can mean whatever the hell the police want them to mean.
 
Throw the motherfucker under the bus. I am pretty lost here as to how you did anything wrong.
 
Well the only thing I can do is fill out the FBI form, and contact them tomorrow, as well as some lawyers. Maybe I did do something wrong, but it would have been better to approach me instead of attacking the network like that.
 
Well the only thing I can do is fill out the FBI form, and contact them tomorrow, as well as some lawyers. Maybe I did do something wrong, but it would have been better to approach me instead of attacking the network like that.

Holy cow, I'm surprised you even had enough balls to get someone pregnant. Seriously.

If I was you and I knew exactly where the guy was I'd book myself a coach ticket and go on vacation... I'm dead serious. He's fucking with your livelihood and your family's meal ticket.

You don't have to do Danke on someone, but goddammit. Fight fire with something!
 
Well the only thing I can do is fill out the FBI form

You do know there are law enforcement agencies outside of the US, right? Contact whatever country he's from law enforcement, they'll probably refer you to their cyber crimes division, get some logs from your old host (more the better), and go from there.

Unless there's more to the story than you're saying (probably is), he can't go around taking networks down as he pleases. Who knows, maybe there's things you're not saying that you don't want law enforcement finding out about you.
 
Not sure what else to say about the story. I've been very open with everyone. I got his address, so i'll talk to a lawyer tomorrow about the possibilities of what to do. Honestly, I've been so busy trying to figure out how to stop the attacks, that contacting anyone as far as law enforcement was something I didn't have time for.
 
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