Rand Paul OWNS Energy Committee, leaves woman speechless.

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Thought this was funny and spot on.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDHaeEsNF0]YouTube - Sen. Rand Paul on Consumer Choice in Energy Committee Hearing[/ame]
 
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Spot on, I bought an older house and have refused to replace the 70's jade green toliets due to it's ability to handle my loads without even a post flush burp..the woman of the house hates it but understands it.

On a side note I live in Washington State, builders, contractors etc go to Canada to score the old school toilets. They are still legal in Canada, I think Canadians take bigger shits than Americans or at least have more rights in the bathroom department. Smuggling illegal toilets is the new front at our borders with Canada.

"And here's the best part: most of the outlaw commodes sold in Windsor, Canada are made in the U.S. by companies like Kohler and American Standard. The high-flush models can still be produced for export, so long as they are not resold in the U.S. And thanks to NAFTA, they are duty free."
 
He's definitely setting up for a vp run.

These people are giggling about the toilets being used as an example but he brings up a legitimate and real problem. These energy policies and enforcements are costing americans who don't have money a whole lot of money. While they may not be so concerned I'm sure there's a lot of people out there trying to figure that exact problem out right now.
 
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My dad has been a self employed appliance repair man for 30 years.. One thing I learned growing up with him, newer stuff is junk and it's purposely made to break. The appliances made 15/20 years ago still outlast newer appliances as long as they're maintained.

The newer stuff is also much more expensive to fix. When people want a repair of some overly expensive new piece of shit they bought 5 months prior, he almost always tells them to scrap it and buy an older used one.
 
My dad has been a self employed appliance repair man for 30 years.. One thing I learned growing up with him, newer stuff is junk and it's purposely made to break. The appliances made 15/20 years ago still outlast newer appliances as long as they're maintained.

The newer stuff is also much more expensive to fix. When people want a repair of some overly expensive new piece of shit they bought 5 months prior, he almost always tells them to scrap it and buy an older used one.

You're Dad is right on.

Just had my GE fridge from 1955, finaly just stop working (due to me never cleaning the coils). The stove and oven are still going though.
On a side note- i wish they would bring back the chevy smallblock 350... best motor ever made. Thanks emmissions and gas prices!
 
can someone explain this to me -- i just watched it and all i could think of was, who cares if he can't buy an old appliance? if the new ones conserve more energy/are more energy efficient, isn't that something we want to promote? this whole 'convince me with persuasion' thing -- i think there are some pretty persuasive arguments for energy conservation, and yet people still ignore them. i dunno -- someone enlighten me here. if we can do it without starting a fight that would be cool too
 
can someone explain this to me -- i just watched it and all i could think of was, who cares if he can't buy an old appliance? if the new ones conserve more energy/are more energy efficient, isn't that something we want to promote? this whole 'convince me with persuasion' thing -- i think there are some pretty persuasive arguments for energy conservation, and yet people still ignore them. i dunno -- someone enlighten me here. if we can do it without starting a fight that would be cool too

(1) They're a lot more expensive. As he said in the video, it can cost thousands of dollars and there are a lot of low income families who can't afford it.

(2) Most importantly, he says "convince me" in the sense of being a consumer, it's a no-brainer that energy conversation is important and he admits that. There are multiple aspects when he says "convince me". They need to be competitive in terms of pricing, they need to not break down so often, they can't cost so much to fix or implement. There is absolutely NO INCENTIVE for companies to address these issues when the government is FORCING people to buy them.
 
Here's how I imagine conversations are going these days in D.C.:

State Thug #1: Hey, let's get lunch.

State Thug #2: Can't. Got a committee in 30.

State Thug #1: Who's doin' it?

State Thug #2: Rand.

State Thug #1: Oh shit. You're screwed. Take band-aids. Hey, Bob. Guess who Hogan's got a committee with.

Bob: Who?

State Thug #1: Rand.

Bob: Oh shit. You're screwed. lol
 
My dad has been a self employed appliance repair man for 30 years.. One thing I learned growing up with him, newer stuff is junk and it's purposely made to break. The appliances made 15/20 years ago still outlast newer appliances as long as they're maintained.

The newer stuff is also much more expensive to fix. When people want a repair of some overly expensive new piece of shit they bought 5 months prior, he almost always tells them to scrap it and buy an older used one.

Sounds bad for his business!
 
RP is comparing freedom of choice with one's body to having the freedom to buy and make whatever the fuck people want?

Ridiculous.
 
can someone explain this to me -- i just watched it and all i could think of was, who cares if he can't buy an old appliance? if the new ones conserve more energy/are more energy efficient, isn't that something we want to promote? this whole 'convince me with persuasion' thing -- i think there are some pretty persuasive arguments for energy conservation, and yet people still ignore them. i dunno -- someone enlighten me here. if we can do it without starting a fight that would be cool too

it's doesn't have to be old, in terms of age, he's meaning the older style of lightbulb, the older style of toilet, etc. that are arguably built better, cost significantly less and can often times be more durable.