Suck a Dick Vivera/Opes/Mike/Mitch/DEE

mysticls

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anyone else getting hit with chargebacks? I'm getting chargebacks for the life of these campaigns and so far have been hit with over 1,000 chargebacks.. these cock suckers are fucking lame. Shaving us, delaying payments, $170 forced rebills to customers, terrible customer support and now they are saying they arent gonna pay out on fraudulent charges (ie people that are able to cancel before rebill) GFY DEE
 


I got my first chargeback from them. I thought I was the only one. Lucky I didnt push that much volume.
 
They have an innovate new business model I bet. Before they would surprise the customers a month later with huge charges. Now they surprise affiliates a month later with huge chargebacks. Gotta keep that profit margin high some how.

The only problem might be that while it's easy to keep getting customers it might not be as easy to continue to get affiliates.

They have been pretty dominate in the space so far but I don't think this is going to bode well with affiliates.
 
copeac pays.. thats never been an issue. They are a great network and I stand behind them 100%.

I met with vivera/opes in San Fran and it came straight from their mouths whats going on.. copeac has been eating these charges for awhile but its getting ridiculous and now affiliates are having to cough up smoe $$$
 
yeah azoogle and copeac both hit me

Azoogle for all the INTL traffic and Copeac for all US traffic
 
To be fair, copeac is not the only network that chargebacked. Azoogle did the same to me.

Well I ran with COPEAC b/c I knew they don't chargeback on affiliates (as far as I know)...but what a surprise....

It's cool though. Rebill is a shady market. Better to stay out of it, especially now a days.
 
copeac has been eating these charges for awhile but its getting ridiculous and now affiliates are having to cough up smoe $$$

The money owed to networks right now is pretty retarted, so it isn't like affiliates are the only ones getting screwed. I just don't think the networks have been publicizing the amount of money they are currently owed.

Either way, 1,000 leads is a shit ton to chargeback.
 
Garrett will handle this.

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I laugh when people making a living off of rebill offers get bent when their ill gotten money is taken away from them.

I laugh.
 
doesn't help the fact that I got sent invoices on accident for 12 companies and affiliates from them.