Where do you draw the line?

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When it comes to making money online when do you say enough is enough?

Right now I'm focusing on adware, basically making gateway pages for adult movies. IE: the surfer has to install my adware before they can watch the video. My install rates are like 1:3 - 1:5 steady over thousands of uniques daily so I'm definitely on to something. I tell myself it's ethical because I make it easy to uninstall the adware, but looking at my uninstall rates I figure the average downloader doesn't know how to uninstall programs they don't want.

I know I go beyond what most people would consider ethical, but I'm young and I'm making lots of money legally so who cares?

I'm still naive, but I think I'm pretty close to the edge of that profitable gray area most of us operate in. I've had plenty of opportunity to take it further and make more, but I don't think it's worth it in the long run.

So I guess this brings me back to my original question, where do you draw the line?
 


what is deemed unethical and ethical will draw many different opinions. Keyword: opinions. No one has the correct answer. When it comes down to it, the only opinion that really matters is your own.
 
Draw the line where you can pay your bills, put some money in the bank and live the lifestyle you want to live. Honestly, I say do you what you want to do to get paid, since that really is why you're doing what you're doing, right? Besides, everyone's got a "smart nephew who is good with computers" who can uninstall the adware eventually anyway, right?
 
All that matters if whether or not YOU are okay with it. Personally, what you're doing is past what I would do, but what do I care? If you're okay with it, go for it. It makes you money. Why stop?

That being said....try making a fake "download windows media player plugin to view pr0n" link to your spyware install. ;)
 
chatmasta said:
That being said....try making a fake "download windows media player plugin to view pr0n" link to your spyware install. ;)
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That is so 2006. There are better ways man.

Funny though the first time I saw one of those gateways I almost creamed myself. It works so well, the only hassle is wording it in a way to keep yourself from getting in trouble.
 
I don't draw no fucking line. $$ is money bitch. the only line is i dont profit from death, religion,charity, low networth individuals
 
zayd said:
That is so 2006. There are better ways man.

Funny though the first time I saw one of those gateways I almost creamed myself. It works so well, the only hassle is wording it in a way to keep yourself from getting in trouble.
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hehe :D yeah i thought it was genius when i saw that...must be a huge conversion rate.
 
To reiterate: Draw the line where you feel can still sleep at night and where you are staying outside of what will actually get you jailtime and or lawsuits. You don't want to fuck with the US legal system. It's fucked enough already...
 
I would also think that the average user that installs your stuff will not even know what other stuff is going on their computer, which is obviously the adware. Once it's on their computer they then don't know how to get rid of it and it may then stay on their computer for a few months and if not upto a year before they eventually either find out how to get rid of it or pay someone to fix their computer because they think its broke or something because they keep getting numerous popups.
 
The question is not where to draw the line, but why even draw a line in the first place? Sounds like you are scared of a little success. Just go with the flow, man. Keep doing what you're doing.
 
productionhead said:
I don't draw no fucking line. $$ is money bitch. the only line is i dont profit from death, religion,charity, low networth individuals
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Fuck that, profiting from religion is more ethical than installing spy/adware imho. That is, running religious sites for example.. taking the piss out scientology, god-hates-fags etc... I'm not condoning running a give-me-your-money-and-be-saved scam!

As for profiting from death.... that can done ethically or not... just look at the news sites for examples of both.
 
Speaking of profiting from religion, I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said "instead of being born again, why don't you just grow up?" Hahaha I wanted to shake the hand of the guy who made that.
 
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